accepting work and getting paid
Hi all hope this is not a bad place to ask this. An in trade client wants you to create a 3d model for their client. Do you ask for money up front before you start working on a model or do you create the model and send a photo so their client can approve before you send the stl, cut or print the model. What happens if you take a few hours to get the details worked out on the model and the client declines the model. Before I came to Montreal I dealt with the end client and would make what ever changes they wanted.
A trade client sent me a photo and said create it exactly It took a lot of time to get it done it was to go on top of a ring. It was exact as the photo he loved it. However when it was printed small enough to fit the ring the feathers in the wings disappeared. So I had the redo the wings with less but larger feathers. He had me send him the stl to put on top of the ring but the wings went down the side so distortion was a problem. He said he cant use it and did not pay me anything. All he had to do was use booleen to remove the distortion that extended from the wing and recreate the ring under the cherub/angle. Do I write off hours of late night work because it was a rush job? At this point I guess I have no choice but how do you all take in work?
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It is odd how some people are so short sighted that they think they can steel from you, have you do work for free for them. Stuff like that always comes back in horrible ways for the cheat. Just remember the clowns name, his or her busyness name, and never do work for them, unless they pay up first, then before you do anything for them ever again have them pay up front first at 2 times the rate you normally charge.
Some, very few will I ever give credit, I don't run a give away, I don't do that to anyone, to me it's a shame for anyone to do that. I am glad I pay for what I have and do, no matter what.
mike
Hi Mike my main question is; An in trade client (another cad designer/jewweller) wants you to create a 3d model for their costumer. Do you ask for money up front before you start working on a model or do you create the model and send a photo so their costumer can approve before you get paid and then send the stl or create the prototype? You would have to create the model so the trade client can quote a price because they want weight of metal number of stones from the model. What if their costumer refuses the work because the trade clients price is more than their costumer wants to spend?
Your in trade client employed you, he needs to pay you regardless if his client payed him, he is the one who needs to pay you. Money up front is your choice, if you trust the in trade client then you can wait, I myself have been burned by people who think that they can get things at my cost without paying anything, people like that I do not work for unless they pay upfront. If they send you a photo and your work is dead on they have no complaint, I did some work for a man 2 years ago, designed according to his text to my phone, sent him photos to get approval, got everything, got the go a head to cut it out, he didn't specify stain so I ask, he wanted a redish type, so stain was applied sent him photo,,,,, then he noticed one of the names were off, but not according to his text, he ended up paying have again the cost, not double, he was happy and I got paid.
mike
I for one would never do work without at least a deposit to cover my time/cost. This includes design work as well as CAM work. Your client is the tradesman not his client and as Mike said he should pay you regardless of the outcome.
Thank you both for your insight on this. This is as I thought it should be I was wondering if things were different in the world of cad/cam. Compared to what business was like for me in The Bahamas dealing directly with the end customer coming into my shop. This is the 3rd time I have done work for a trade client and they loved my work but their customer did not want to pay their price to get the work done at least that is what they told me. I think the trade client should be educated enough to give their customer a close estimate for the piece. I have no problem helping students and newbes to the trade to come up with a fare estimate knowing I might not get paid. I was a newbe once to and old heads ( Bahamian slag for people of experience) in the trade helped me. So I pay it forward.
HUGE THANK YOU AGAIN.
Evonne
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